"Victory"

By Bob Grant
Published 06/16/2007

Bob Grant

1982 NBHS Graduate - Honorably Discharged from USMC after serving from 7/82-6/86 - Journeyman Telecommunications Technichian.

A labor activist--with a lengthy history of successful civil litigation, (6-0), against the various "Ma Bell" offshoots. Licenced charter boat Capt. actively studying Radical Islam for over 20 years.

I am an unapologetic critic of Islam & feel reform within that religion is key to ultimate victory.

As I said in the piece, victory will be defined when people in that part of the World (not just Iraq), no longer believe their status in an other worldly theoretical existence is more important than the value the Um-ma (The world wide Muslim community) as a Religion/civilization/culture put on the actual importance of a physical life..

As to our presence in Iraq, Should we give it back? Or (& I think this a better MILITARY tactic), do we maintain an operational size army & complimentary Task Force Carrier Group in theater, to act to threats in that part of the world as they come to bare?(Think Post WWII Western Europe, Japan, or Korea..) Questions following up on your Logic..

No American companies profited from reconstruction efforts in those countries post conflict?
How about business ventures in Western Europe, Japan, & Korea?
Following your reasoning we should just ignore the realities of foreign trade altogether; and thereby negate a need for a Navy, (which was the primary reason it was formed in the first place), to protect foreign American interests in the international capitalist market?
Do you heat your house with that same self righteous empty headed dogma in the winter? Of course you don't ..
You probably even drive a car... Something perhaps you should consider giving up if you want your inane rhetoric to have any credibility..

We are a country with numerous foreign financial concerns that affect each citizen of this planet (not just this country) in terms of potential fallout if those interests are disrupted..
Unilateral I think not.. that is to laugh..

The fact that so many other countries are choosing to try to fly below the radar with Islam by deflecting blame onto the canard of "American Hegemony" is an indicator of what the threat level really is..

Appeasers don't want to admit we are at war with an Ideology.. An Ideology that has no boundaries.. What it does have is wellsprings that act as headwaters for the flow of Radical Islam & extremist Ideology..

It happens that most of those sources are all in that geographic proximity, so prudent military planning requires us to maintain a fore-boding troop presence..( a presence that will be maintained long after I am dead & scattered... I should think.. & I'm 42 & reasonably healthy)..

Not leaving troops means moving entire armies across oceans.. Aside from not being able to rapidly deploy if needed, it is supremely expensive to do & that is a financial reality that cannot be overlooked when demanding re-deployments of troops..

Which brings us to why we really invaded Iraq.. It was, politically the most expedient way to attain our ultimate military objective.. A large military presence in theater to help apply diplomatic pressure on Iran... (The military sometimes must be used as the point of the spear for diplomacy.. & That is a cold hard fact of history)..

One of the few nation states that is openly flouting our policy on State sponsored terrorism (A policy that goes back a Generation by the way) is Iran.. Iran has been actively funding terrorism around the globe through a proxy force called "Hezbollah" since it's inception shortly after the Iranian Revolution in 1979..
Though I'm sure a person of your apparently limited frame of reference never heard of Kenneth Timmerman he has an excellent book ("Countdown to Crisis" the impending nuclear showdown with Iran), about Iran's involvement In:
pre- 9/11 terror
Links to Al-Qa'ida
The scope of it's Nuclear potential &
The potential threat they pose to not only Israel but Europe..

Many suspect Al-Qa'ida is being given refuge by the Mullahs in Tehran and this past week irrefutable evidence was presented that Iran is aiding the insurgency in Iraq & Afghanistan..

If you allow your mind to think beyond the little box it currently finds itself trapped in, you may see the difference in the negotiating position we have today with Iran, as opposed to the limited options available to Jimmy Carter & Bill Clinton when it came to bargaining with the Iranians.. Who are currently the greatest threat to the stability of the world as this is written..

You may want to familiarize yourself with some of the mysticism that surrounds Shia Islam, their belief that it is a religious obligation to bring about "the end times" is not hyperbole & the fodder for Cocktail party jokes, (at least to them, believe me..)

One can argue the semantics of why we invaded Iraq until
the cows come home: you however choose to ignore the reality that when they do they will be wired with an Improvised Explosive Devises..

I don't parrot anything by the way.. I am critical thinker & any opinion I have gleaned through the years has been formulated by the reading & research that I have dedicated myself to..

As to irrelevant WWII analogies----Look at chapter 1, pg 1. of the book I mentioned.. Then ask yourself..
How wise it would have been to tell the rest of the world that the invasion of Italy was just a rouse to divert the attention away from the North Western shores of France?

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Comment #1 (Posted by sands)

Bob, I got an email from Palestine. It said they no longer believes in establishing an umma in Spain or resurrecting Saladinn to smote the Christians. He asks if we can stop shooting septuagenarians and pregnant women now? Or maybe you have more info on the Arab world from your recent, extensive travels there? Please share. All I can find is crazy racist conspiracy mongering on News max.

Comment #2 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Judging by the events coming out of Gaza during the past 2 weeks.. I'd say Yes it would appear that peace, (or the execution of all Fatah members as I call it) is almost at hand in Gaza.. You present the argument as though you are a reform minded Muslim, so I remind you of this passage from The Qu'ran.. I was under the impression that when a verse invokes a mosque such as this one does.. it is thus viewed by the Ulema as a reference to the entire Dar-al-Islam (House of Islam).. Qu'ran 9:107: " And there are those who built a mosque from mischevious motives, to spread unbelief and disunite the faithful, in expectation of him who made war on God and his Apostle.. They swear that their intentions were good, but God bears witness that they are lying.. You shall not set foot in it.. It is more fitting that you should pray in a mosque founded on piety from the very first.. There you shall find men who would keep themselves pure.. God loves those that purify themselves.." & as to your denunciation of violence in Spain.. If we quit killing killing children & the elderly in Iraq & Afghanistan I'm assuming.. Some questions for you, as you seem to view the world through a fairly narrow microscope.. How many non-Muslim schools were burned last week in Thailand (a "moderate" Islamic Nation)? 13.. How are Darfur, (A clear case of Muslim/Arab aggression), and the Palestinian struggle connected? Once again from Thailand, How many Buddhist teachers were executed in front of their students by Muslims last week? 2 How many Catholic school girls have been beheaded in Thailand this year by Muslims? more than a dozen.. As to Those 7 children killed this week in Afghanistan.. Do we know who their fathers were? I am quite comfortable guessing Taliban or Al-Qa'ida members.. (Modern armies have a quarter-master corps.. For Muslim terrorists that is the function of the family unit..) In the west we call that the material aid and support apparatus for terrorism.. The Umma & CNN might call them innocent victims, but I ask again who are their parents? Until I get that fact I'll presume radical Muslim parentage.. (With apples not falling from trees & All) I offer this warning to those who believe your Taqiyya-(A Lie told to to Unbelievers to serve the greater good of Islam), about not wanting to retake Spain.. Aside from the Reconquest of Cordoba being a stated objective of every Pan-Islamist that has come down the pike (From Syyid Qutb to Include bin-Laden).. I offer this warning to those who have not yet wised up to what this unreformed religion has in store for the west.. In their own words.. Qu'ran 7:180 "Among those whom We (Allah) created there are some who give true guidance and act justly,(true Muslim believers).. As for those that deny Our (Islams) revelations, We (Allah) we lead them (kafir/Unbelievers) step by step to ruin, whence they cannot tell; for though I bear with them, My strategem is sure.." It is verses like this that serve to inspire the less schooled members of Islam to wage Jihad.. Though the verse explicitly states that this is Gods will, to the Extremist it is viewed as a Religious mandate.. I maintain my position that the impetus is on the Umma to demand Reform within their own reliogion.. & that said reform is the key to a lasting peace with the Islamic community.. One last question for my critic.. Who are all those people being executed in Gaza this week & who are their executioners? Human Pride World-Wide Bobby G.

Comment #3 (Posted by sands)

i dunno Bob, these are not the immediate justifications used for IDF incursions in Gaza and the long running ghettoization and starvation of those who democratically elected their leaders. However, you demonstrate that scriptural quotes, Thai decapitations and the reduction of Darfur to 'bad Muslims' does serve serve as a salve for the consciences of we who fund the terror ( including it seems the Fatah coup).

Comment #4 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Don't trot out that tired shop worn we have been oppressed by by Israel story to me!!!!! I am quite familiar with the true history of the "indigenous" peoples of the Middle East.. Had your ancestors stayed within the boundaries of their nation in the first place, instead of relocating "temporarily" in the days before the 67 war they would not be in this position.. But their greed for land as well as a certain knowledge that Israel would be defeated by the combined Muslim forces arrayed against them, led them to make a disastrous decision to leave their homes.. In the expectation they would be returning to claim the land abandonned by the Jews... (Bad choice) That is the origins of todays Diaspora in Gaza.. "We will sweep them from the River Jordan into the Meditteranean sea.." Wasn't that their battle cry? The origins of this conflict are rooted in bigotry & greed.. Trying to maintain the position of Israeli oppression or American Hegemony may work on CNN or in Cambridge but real historians don't buy any of it.. I am not an apologetic, revisionist historian like Howard Zinn, John Esposito, or Noam Chomsky, so your argument is mute to me.. Unlike so many other people who you apparently feel you can persuade with your distortions and Wolf cries of "oppression", I know the real history of the Middle East.. (Thank You Dr. Bernard Lewis!!!) You Palestinians have been fortunate to date that Europe is so beholding to the Islamic lobby(See the Strasbourg Resolution).. Although soon the actions of your brethren in Europe, (Street riots, Muslim Gang Rapes, Balkanized community enclaves like in Marseilles, France), will lead them to wear out their welcome on the continent as well.. This is already starting to happen.. Thanks to the efforts of Authors like Bat Ye'or, Oriana Fallaci, Melanie Phillips, and Robert Spencer, people are now becoming familiar with your "Religion of Peace" and the two differing messages the Qu'ran transmits.. I say two messages because as I'm sure you are aware, while the Qu'ran professes peace and tolerance towards fellow Muslims in the Meccan Shuras (Verses), the Medinian Shuras are a call to arms, requiring the faithful to wage Jihad against all non-believers (kafirs), "where ever you may find them".. For clarification the Koran deals with contrasting messages by giving the importance to the Prophets words as they were recieved.. Earlier messages being negated by the later messages.. So when Muslim Apologists tell you there is"no Compunction to Religion" as from the 2nd Shura, they are conveying a message that has been negated by a revelation given Muhammed later in life.. A Revelation Muhammed recieved at 40, has no import at all if a revelation Muhammed recieved at 62 contradicts it.. "No compunction to religion" was an early revelation & is clearly negated by a later verses that implore the Umma to wage Jihad and among other gruesome things "Smite the Unbelievers above the neck"... But hey, on the bright side-- Jimmy Carter still believes you.. Human Pride World-Wide Bobby G.

Comment #5 (Posted by sands)

Didn't Lewis predict the end of the world would be August 22nd, 2006? Perhaps your attachment to his works explains your confusion about Arab Israeli wars. Most Palestinian refugees emerged from the 48 war not 67: the notion that they chose to leave is a novel version of various justifications for ethnic cleansing ( google Kosovar Albanians.) Europe caving to Islamic lobbies is hilarious given the EU's willing involvement in starving Palestine and tacit support for the Afghan and Iraqi occupations.

Comment #6 (Posted by Bob Grant)

As a demogogue, you have, no doubt knowingly, mischarachterized Dr. Lewis' statement which I have inserted here-- " Bernard Lewis wrote in the Wall Street Journal on 2006-AUG-08: "In Islam, as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time--Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined. Mr. Ahmadinejad and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the U.S. about nuclear development by Aug. 22. This was at first reported as 'by the end of August,' but Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement was more precise." "What is the significance of Aug. 22? This year, Aug. 22 corresponds, in the Islamic calendar, to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427. This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to 'the farthest mosque,' usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back (cf Koran XVII.1). This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for [2006-]AUG-22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind. 8" Far from a prediction.. & Given the events/rhetoric coming out of Iran currently his comments are indeed very germane to the discussion.. You would be well served to read "The Crisis of Islam " & "What went wrong" by Dr. Lewis.. To think critically one should read opinion that conflicts with your own, not just supports it.. I don't agree with Chalmers Johnxon, Howard Zinn, John Esposito or Noam Chomsky but I read them.. Thank you for taking my bait about the origins of the Palestinian diapora though.. Rarely will someone admit that the origins lay with the Arab declaration of war on the New Born Jewish State in 48 so I try and stay clear of that argument.. The 67 war's diaspora led to the formation of the Black September group responsible for so much of the bloodeshed in the 60's & 70's.. Munich, Athens airport to name just 2.. Not to mention Black Septembers role in the Lebanese Civil War.. But thanks for ackknowledging that it was the greed of those who fled in 48 that led to the bulk of the Palestinian refugee crisis.. Their thinking at the time was that they would soon be returning, whence they could then remove any dead Jewish bodies before claiming the dead Jews House for their own.. You know genocide as an excuse for a land grab.. We call that backing the wrong horse.. And in war that tactic has consequences.. Bob G.

Comment #7 (Posted by sands)

No Bob, in 48 they left in terror, not to make way for Arab armies as the old lie goes. Their lands were populated and it is unlikely they will reclaim them. However, the occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza still hold millions of Palestinians which is why devices like violence, eviction, house demolition, petty vandalism and terror, expropriation, and apartheid laws are used to permit rampant, illegal settlement. As you correctly illustrate, such ethnic cleansing, violence, and theft can evoke a violent response and breed terrorism. Israels actions since 67 have opened this Pandora's box. I'm glad we've learned now that googling scripture does not resolve all arguments.

Comment #8 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Yes.. Those neighboring Arab Nations embraced the Independence of Israel whole heartedly.. Of course I only have my recollection of history to rely on... Oh.. yes... & my Library.. Which, sadly for most of your assumptions about me, includes 4 translations of The Koran.. I prefer the translation by N. J. Dawood.. & "Reliance of the Traveller" (The classic manual on Islamic Law) for most routine questions regarding Sharia .. I use Ali Dashdi & Rev. J.L. Menezes for most of my biographical info. on the Prophet.. & As you already know.. Dr. Bernard Lewis' on all matters of historic significance.. Not revisionoist apologists like John Esposito.. So you see there is not much need to google.. & any passages I may quote are germane.. I notice that you didn't write a word about how wrong you were & the folly of your hysterical rantings that Bernard Lewis' claimed to know the hour of doomsday... Was that undeniable factual inaccuracy the result of ur Demagoguery Dimentia or your Penchant for relying so heavily on the internet as your, and I use the term loosely, information source .. Could you tell me again how the beheading of a Catholic School girl in Thailand is causily related to the struggle of the Arab in Ramallah?? Human Pride World Wide Bobby G. A reality of history .. People transfixed on acquiring status in a theoretic afterlife, seldom value the here and now..

Comment #9 (Posted by Ken Pittman)

Bob, you must realize that Sands is a pro-Palestinian suicide blogger.

Comment #10 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Yeah i know he's on the s-t blog as well,, which is why I baited him about the original flight of the Palestinians in 47 and 48.. In Conor Cruise O'Briens book The Siege, widely considered the most objective on the subject, he estimates as many as 70,ooo of the more wealthy indigenous Arabs fled believing the Israelis would be decimated and then they would return.. Had they stayed they could now be part of the 2 million Arab non-Jewish citizens who campaign openly, vote freely, and are represented in the Knesset.. The Iraeli parliament.. I find curious little sticking points are always best when an antogonist helps present them... I did notice he hasn't admitted he was wrong about a number of other issues and is unwilling to discuss Islamic agression other than that which is he alledges is instigated by Israel.. India nada Chad nada Chechnya nada Somalia nada Thailand nada Algeria nada Bengledesh nada Sudan nada Philipines nada.. yadda.. yadda yadda ...... Human Pride World Wide

Comment #11 (Posted by sands)

Thanks for offering the entirety of your mid east knowledge Ken. In truth, all of Bob’s scriptural quotes from his four Korans amount to the same thing. I don’t recall admitting an error, although if I did perhaps I could say I was deliberately baiting you or even say that I was making a deeper point a la B Lewis’s prophecy ( which I read and laughed at on the day of its publication) and then I could even follow up with a fig leaf like Conor Cruise O Brien. O’ Brien may well have a notion that 70000 wealthy date merchants may have fled, and he may have a quote from one or two of them about how they were sure of their restoration, but this does not discount that hundreds of thousands of Arabs fled in terror in 48, fuled by accurate stories of pogroms and rape. Why else the fiction of Arab broadcasts exhorting Muslims to flee be invented by terror’s apologists?

Comment #12 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Although it won't be here's hoping that this will end the debate on the origins of the Palestinian refugees.. Please note these are not publications sympathetic to the Zionist cause... "The Arab streets are curiously deserted and, ardently following the poor example of the more moneyed class there has been an exodus from Jerusalem too, though not to the same extent as in Jaffa and Haifa." - London Times, May 5, 1948 "The refugees were confident that their absence would not last long, and that they would return within a week or two. Their leaders had promised them that the Arab armies would crush the 'Zionist gangs' very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile." - Monsignor George Hakim, Greek Catholic Bishop of Galilee, in the Beirut newspaper Sada al Janub, August 16, 1948 "Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the -Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit.. . . It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades." - The London weekly Economist, October 2, 1948 "It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem." - Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949 "This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boasting of an unrealistic Arab press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of some weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and retake possession of their country." - Edward Atiyah (then Secretary of the Arab League Office in London) in The Arabs (London, 1955), p. 183 "The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by order of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city...By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa.". - Time, May 3, 1948, p. 25 The Arab exodus, initially at least, was encouraged by many Arab leaders, such as Haj Amin el Husseini, the exiled pro-Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem, and by the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine. They viewed the first wave of Arab setbacks as merely transitory. Let the Palestine Arabs flee into neighboring countries. It would serve to arouse the other Arab peoples to greater effort, and when the Arab invasion struck, the Palestinians could return to their homes and be compensated with the property of Jews driven into the sea. nuff said Bob G..

Comment #13 (Posted by sands)

I dont know where you cut these from. I doubt they are original sources of yours even with your 20 years making rhyming couplets from Koranic verse. However, let us take a look: <p>Beirut paper 1948; London weekly Economist 1948; London Times 1948; 1949 Radio report. <p>All of these "sources" are as useful as Judy Miller's reporting on WMDs- official lies repeated in print and held up as evidence. Interesting too is the preponderance of focus on Jaffa and Haifa. Indeed, the biggest exodus mentioned seems to be 50-60000, nowhere near the half a million that fled rape and terror.

Comment #14 (Posted by Bob Grant)

I guess you were not able to disprove any of my sources.. I stuck with Obriens claim of 70,000 wealthy merchants.. Which is widely viewed as a conservative estimate of those Palestinians who fled, rather than fight for what they believed in.. Blatant acts of cowardice if one were to put stock in your original arguments, of wrongful occupation.. Evidently, the collective mindset of the diaspora was--------------- The land was worth grabbing if the Allied Arab Armies won in 48; just not worth fighting for in the first place... You should try profferring an argument sometime instead of your dogmatic rhetoric based on lies... Try putting a source to some of your less than objective opinion sometime.. Who knows you might just learn something by doing some reading.. I mean I could rely on CNN & MSNBC to get all my info as well but then I would fair about as well as you do in any intellectual discussion on the subject.. Also for the umpteenth tiome.... The question remains like a Big Green elephant in this chat room ... EXPLAIN to me again how, beheading a teenage Catholic Schoolgirl in Thailand or the slaying of a Buddhist monk in Indonesia advance the cause of the Palestinian? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Human Pride World-Wide Bobby G.

Comment #15 (Posted by sands)

i guess hundreds of thousands of Kosovars, Jews, Darfurians, Timorese are not fighting for what they believe in either in each instance they fled rape and terror. However, in each instance that these groups did fight ( for their homes, not necessarily "beliefs) they were classified as terrorists. you follow the same pattern with Palestinians. I guess you want it both ways when it comes to the 48 exodus. I also did refer and even reprint your so called sources ( of course they are someone else's sources, you didnt put them together) and said they are worthless reports which , in any case, refer to no more than 10% of those Arabs who fled. underlying all your posts has been the crazy notion that it is ever possible for Palestinians to 'lose' their right of title to their homes in what is now Israel. It is a fait accompli now as most accept but it is a great wrong by any standards and should not be replicated in the W Bank. Those who do want a repeat spin long debunked stories of broadcasts, try to 'animalize' the Arab, link Palestine to Kashmir or Thailand and obsessively focus on the scripture to justify preemptive, unending violence.

Comment #16 (Posted by sands)

Ive just reread: Hezbollah took shape after 1979 Iranian revolution? A little misleading, no?

Comment #17 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Do you even know what sourcing means? It doesn't mean I wrote the article or did the leg work to investigate the story.. It means I went and searched for articles and stories told by others that back up my point.. I thought 20 or so sources should be more than enough but... As to Hizblollah founded in 1982-83 as a proxy fighting force of the Iranian revolutionary guard.. Let me guess I don't know what I'm talking about.. Unfortunately that doesn't need sourcing it is common knowledge... Human Pride World-Wide Bob

Comment #18 (Posted by sands)

if you were really sourcing you would credit the website you got this original research (I only recently learned to do this and usually get caught lying my ass off weak as it is.) So now we move to 82 for the Hezabollus? Maybe in a few more revisions you'll finally mention the Igloo word or Llama word. I do drugs and need coffee sorry to have bothered you.

Comment #19 (Posted by Bob Grant)

Heres the short list of sources SUGGESTED LITERATURE FOR THE CONTEMPORARY AMERICAN 1. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam ( And The Crusades ) by Robert Spencer, Regnery Pub. 2005 2. Onward Muslim Soldiers (How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West). By Robert Spencer. Regnery Pub. 2003 3. The Truth about Muhammad (Founder of the World’s Most Intolerant Religion), By Robert Spencer Regnery 2006 4. Twenty-Three Years (A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad). By Ali Dashti, Mazda Pub.1985 5. The Middle East (A Brief History of the last 2,000 Years), By Bernard Lewis.. Scribner 1995 6. What Went Wrong? ( The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East ). By Bernard Lewis. Perennial Pub. 2002 7. The Crisis of Islam (Holy War & Unholy Terror), By Bernard Lewis, Random House 2003 8. Countdown To Crisis ( The Coming Nuclear Showdown With Iran ). By Kenneth Timmerman. Crown Forum Pub. 2005 9. Inside Al-Qaeda. By Rohan Gunaratna. Berkley Pub. 2002 10. Al-Qaeda. By Jane Corbin. Nation Books. 2002 11. Infiltration By Paul Sperry. Nelson Current Pub. 2005 12. Disinformation: 22 media myths that undermine the war on terror. By Richard Miniter, Regnery Pub. 2005 13. Ghost Wars. By Steve Coll. Penguin Press Pub. 2004 14. Hatred’s Kingdom ( How Saudi Arabia Supports the New Global Terrorism ). By Dore Gold. Regnery Pub. 2003 15. Losing Bin Laden. By Richard Miniter. Regnery Pub. 2003 16. The 9/11 Commission Report. As a note: the conclusions are startling 17. The Koran ( translated by N.J. Dawood is least sanitized ) 18. American Jihad By Steven Emerson..Free Press 2003 19. Eurabia The Euro-Arab Axis By Bat Ye’or 20. Shadow Party By David Horowitz & Richard Poe, Nelson Current 2006 21 The Force of Reason By Oriana Fallaci, Rizzoli International 2004 22. Black Rednecks & White Liberals, By Thomas Sowell. Encounter Books 2005 ( A collection of essays, all very germane to current world & national events.. Mr. Sowell is an African American Economist & Member of the Hoover Institute ) 23. The Rights of Man by Thomas Paine (Some of the best rhetoric on universal freedoms ever written) 24. The Trouble with Islam today by Irshad Manji , St. Martin’s Griffin 2003 25. Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel St. Martins Press 2006 Remember “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation” -Herbert Spencer Human Pride World-Wide Bobby G

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